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Which team do you support ?

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Football ‘s been a fairly regular topic on the site lately and generates some strong opinions. Clearly perspectives can be coloured by the team you support – and even more so by clubs you despise. Are you prepared to declare your interests ?
Speaking for myself I’m a West Ham follower with a particular dislike of the current version of Manchester United (Ferguson, Ronaldo, the general arrogance that seems to permeate the club, Rooney’s petulance, the fact that they keep winning trophies etc).
Which team do you support – and which ones most irritate you ?

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Glasgow Rangers

Guess which team I don't like.

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billyous | 7 May 2009 - 7:57pm

Err...

Accrington Stanley?

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Patrick Crowther | 7 May 2009 - 8:10pm

who are they?

...exactly!

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Lard | 7 May 2009 - 8:20pm

Close

but no cigar.

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billyous | 7 May 2009 - 9:15pm

Oi!

No knocking the Stanley my friends!

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Uncle Mick | 9 May 2009 - 2:17pm

Everton

As has been remarked upon on occasion.

Which team most irritates me?

Well obviously the Devil's spawn across the park. Beyond that, I shall rejoice in the relegation of Newcastle this season - that home of the overpaid and undermotivated - but otherwise have no real itches to scratch.

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Paul Waring | 7 May 2009 - 8:10pm

Another Bluenose

Paul's comments above are exactly what I'd have posted.

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Carl Parker | 8 May 2009 - 6:03pm

Support: Ipswich Town.

Irritated by: Manchester United, chiefly. (For their charmless, one-eyed manager, their charmless, diving Ronaldo, their charmless, childish Rooney.)

I'm also not infrequently thrilled by United's football, which is *really* irritating.

Irritated by footballers in general, if truth be told. Most of them seem cheat as a matter of course, from the contested throws when they've clearly sent the ball out, to the sly tugs, to the attempts to maim.

And yet I love watching football, as I loved playing it, in spite of all the tantrums and underhandedness.

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nigelthebald | 7 May 2009 - 8:19pm

So do I, which may come as a

So do I, which may come as a surprise to you all.

What with Roy Keane's arrival and the installation of Marcus Evans (who he?) as our new owner, I fear that the club we once knew and loved as the eccentric hobby of gay landowners - well, one gay landowner, then - will shortly be far behind us.

Wish-list: just the one at present: Newcastle at Portman Road opening day of the season, if only to watch Keane and Shearer irking the shit out of one another.

Just for a giggle, I thought I'd mention the sign at the Copdock roundabout with an arrow pointing south and a legend which read "Norwich Fans: Col U that way".

Mwah Ha Ha HAAAA!

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itfc1959 | 30 May 2009 - 1:39pm

Birmingham City for me

It's been a good week.

I'm not sure why, but I find Manchester City irritating.

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Paul Hewston | 7 May 2009 - 8:23pm

Man City

More amusing for me. All that money; not that good.

*Dons tin hat and awaits retribution from blue Mancunians.*

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nigelthebald | 7 May 2009 - 8:33pm

an ability to laugh at the club you love

is essential for us City supporters so you'll get no flack from us.

I think in the summer we should pay whatever the Rags want for R*nald* and make him work in the car park on match days.

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Lard | 7 May 2009 - 8:54pm

Your summer scheme

sounds brilliant, unless you have valet parking in mind. All those crumpled cars...

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nigelthebald | 7 May 2009 - 9:39pm

We haven't really started spending it yet....

Not that it will probably make any difference.

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PaoloCee | 7 May 2009 - 10:21pm

And when we do it will be incessantly pored over....

I am praying for an end to the Kaka / £120 million for Ronaldo / Inflated price for anyone with the gumption to want to come to play for our fantastic new 'project'. I totally do have a sense of humour though, in fact, I told my United loving friends that we would 'turn them over' on the weekend. Oh how we all laughed!

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dimlocator | 12 May 2009 - 5:30pm

You Reds!

Forest fan.

A feller I worked with once was a Bolton fan. He told me that if they ever went out of business, he would buy a season ticket for the away end at Old Trafford and support everybody who played against Utd. I know EXACTLY what he means. I cheer on everybody who they play - even in Europe. "But they represent England". Not my part of it, they don't.

What about everybody else? Do you turn a blind eye to your irrational hatreds for the sake of nationalism? Or does your football-related loathing run deeper than that?

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Stephen Hanley | 7 May 2009 - 8:32pm

Arsenal calling

I'm a Gooner, living in Liverpool.

Hate: Sp*rs, just because; Chelsea, because, as they proved yet again last night, they have absolutely no class whatsoever; any team managed by Sam Allardyce, it makes me shudder to think that he was being seriously touted as a possible England manager.

Coming up on the rails: Hull City, because of their manager, who used to work with, guess who... you got it: "Big" Sam.

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David Ellcock | 7 May 2009 - 8:37pm

What he said, plus...

...I have spent decades hating ManU (Fergie especially) but recently I have despised Chelsea more. Oddly, I dislike players more than teams these days, notably Terry, Lampard, Rooney and Gerrard. And not because I'd love to have them at Arsenal; I actually wouldn't, even though I would take Torres, Essien, Drogba, Ferdinand and Ronaldo immediately.

Arsene (still) knows, by the way. Hopefully he will know to sell Adebayor this summer and also not be fooled into thinking RVP will extend his contract (like Flamini didn't) when at the Bosman stage. If he doesn't sign this summer, then he should also be sold - not something I say lightly as RVP is my fave player but we can't walk away from the cash.

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kb | 8 May 2009 - 8:34am

Ins and Outs at Ashburton Grove?

I too would be happy to see Idlebayor go. He's a great player with a lousy attitude.

Hope to god RVP doesn't leave, but agree with your analysis. Now Theo's put pen to paper and signed a new long-term contract let's hope a few others follow suit.

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David Ellcock | 8 May 2009 - 9:46am

Toure

Kolo looks like he'll be off and I think Adebayor will do too. As I said RVP will also leave I suspect.

I know it's all if's but... if we had bought Torres when we had the chance (ie prior to TH14's last year when he was crap, but it meant we couldn't sign anyone to replace him), we'd have won the Prem last year and this.

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kb | 8 May 2009 - 4:20pm

Thank God Wenger bought Arseshaving

Pity he wasn't playing during the week against Man U - he'd have made it look less embarrassing.

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Mike Hull | 9 May 2009 - 5:16pm

Gooner too

Living 1/2 mile from the ground......

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Lunaman | 3 June 2009 - 2:20pm
Lunaman | 3 June 2009 - 2:25pm

Leeds United

Teams that irritate as follows:

Manchester United. I hate it when people call them United like they are the only ones. They are good though.

Chelsea. Its the delusion of class that I find the most annoying. That and the fact that they were dispicable in the 1970 cup final and yet Chelsea fans always refer to Leeds as Dirty Leeds.

Bayern Munich. Come on you Munchen 1860.

Stevenage Borough. Cheats.

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Lee Rimmer | 7 May 2009 - 8:37pm

Man Yoo

Manchester United. I hate it when people call them United like they are the only ones. They are good though.

Agreed on both fronts, Lee.

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David Ellcock | 7 May 2009 - 8:49pm

Pot calling Kettle

I am a Huddersfield Town fan and have had my fill of the patronising attitude of the Leeds fans. Too big for league one etc etc..

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woodface | 12 May 2009 - 6:18pm

Celtic

and any other team with Celtic in the title (e.g. Boston Celtics, Farsley Celtic).

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billyous | 7 May 2009 - 8:41pm

In Premier League I support: Liverpool

Irritated by: Manchester United for obvious reasons.

In Norway I support Viking FK of my hometown Stavanger.
We hate Bryne FK. Bloody peasants.

And here to remind Chelsea fans that yesterday wasn't the first time they've been beaten by Norwegians. In the 2002 UEFA cup Chelsea won 2-1 on Stamford Bridge, but Viking hammered them 4-2 on a glorious october evening in Stavanger.


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Norwegian Blue | 7 May 2009 - 8:44pm

Ahahahahahah!

A Liverpool fan from Norway!

Who'd have thought it?

(sorry).

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Paul Waring | 7 May 2009 - 8:53pm

English football in Norway

I think you'll find that most Norwegians with an interest in football has a favorite team in England.

English football has always been shown on Norwegian TV, and the English and Norwegian seasons have very little overlap. (In Norway, for weather related reasons, football is a summer sport...)

Norwegian Blue, even if he has poor taste in English football teams, seems to know his Norwegian football. :-)

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Kjell | 8 May 2009 - 6:46am

Sorry Kjell (and Norwegian Blue)

You may not be aware, but it is a standing joke in the Blue half of Merseyside that the other team in the city gets the majority of its support from out-of-towners, and particularly from the Scandinavian region.

When the first response to this thread mentioning Liverpool came from Norway, I just couldn't resist....

Oh, forgot to mention soft spots...

Norwich City, lived there for four years in the early eighties and spent a lot of happy afternoons at Carrow Road. Nice club. nice people and I hope they get back where they belong (ie mid-table Championship) before too long.

Preston, for giving us our current manager (and probably training our next).

Nottingham Forest, for what they did in the European Cup back in the day.

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Paul Waring | 8 May 2009 - 12:44pm

To be fair Paul

We've got a few Scandanavian fans ourselves. There used to an online Everton forum moderated by a guy in Sweden. He may have been called Anders, but I may be confusing him with the only decent Swede who has played for us.

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Carl Parker | 8 May 2009 - 6:07pm

Shared an office

with the webmaster of the Everton Supporters Club Norwegian Branch, so I have heard that joke a few times.

He even claims to have sung "_uck of back to Norway!" to Liverpool fans in Liverpool.

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Kjell | 8 May 2009 - 9:45pm

First time I went to Norway

(many years ago) the immigration officer studied my passport (issued in Liverpool) in such detail I thought I was going to be deported, before asking me... "do you think Jan Molby will be playing next season?". Luckily I am a Red not a Blue, and was allowed in.

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paulwright | 11 May 2009 - 12:26pm

Manchester City

never a dull moment being a Citeh fan. If they're not being relegated, promoted or bought/sold by a foreign squillionaire then they're probably sacking the manager only to replace him with someone you wouldn't trust to collect your dry cleaning (John Benson, Jimmy Frizzell, Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal, Kevin Keegan et al) I don't think I could take it if we started being really successful again.

Irritants? Ceramics Ferguson's shaved chimps from The Theatre of Debt where we'll be playing on Sunday.

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Lard | 7 May 2009 - 8:47pm

Support Q.P.R. ...

Dislike Manchester United mainly because of Ferguson. They never really annoyed me before his reign. It's got nothing to do with their sucesss, I swear!!!

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Nicodemus | 7 May 2009 - 8:47pm

Leeds United here too

despite living in Manchester for over 20 years I cannot stand MUFC. I'm also supporting Arbroath from now on - purely 'cos their ground is the nearest to the sea. (I love D Baker's podcast)

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badartdog | 7 May 2009 - 8:48pm

Exeter City

and couldn't be happier with life at the moment....

Most dislike - Argyle, obviously, but also Chelsea and Lazio

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Chimney Singing... | 7 May 2009 - 9:02pm

Used to love the national game...

... played it too for many years and have shot ankles to prove it. Don't follow it at all now. British teams that field no British players, owned by overseas millionaires who have no true interest in the game. The professionalism (in a bad way) - lack of passion, diving, cheating, arrogance and complete narcissism of most premier league players. It is just a business now with profit at its heart.

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Steerpike | 7 May 2009 - 9:03pm

Ferguson

You all hate him, but you all wish he was your team's manager!

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Mikhail | 7 May 2009 - 9:14pm

Wrong!

I'm quite happy with the bloke we've got thanks.

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David Ellcock | 7 May 2009 - 9:15pm

Would rather have Wenger

But Simon Grayson could be a ledge in the making so pretty happy with my lot for the first time in many years.

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Lee Rimmer | 7 May 2009 - 9:20pm

I don't

I admire him and what he's achieved; get irritated by him sometimes but love the way he winds up the squatters.
Additionally I'm perfectly happy with David Moyes.

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Carl Parker | 8 May 2009 - 6:10pm

The squatters?

Have heard the 'Poolies called all sorts of things, but never "squatters"? Can you explain that one Carl?

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David Ellcock | 8 May 2009 - 7:16pm

Anfield

was originally Everton's ground. The landlord tried to raise the rent and so we moved to Goodison. The legacy of that was that the other lot were formed.

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Carl Parker | 8 May 2009 - 7:58pm

Cheers

mate.

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David Ellcock | 8 May 2009 - 8:36pm

No

On balance I thnink I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.

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illuminatus | 12 May 2009 - 4:25pm

Vale till I die

Port Vale,so i suffer more than most.
and as already mentioned, here in Barcelona I Support Espanyol.

Don't mind Villa,Wolves,Fulham and Brighton

Teams i Hate (is there a word limit Fraser ?)
in Order
Barcelona- Self proclamimed"world's biggest club" Not even biggest club in Spain. overhyped cheats(Before the Chelsea match)who've won the same amount of European cups as Forest but try to convince you it's more and worst supporters on the planet.

Stoke City-well who doesn't ?

Sevilla-apart from Freddie Kanoute, Dive,Dive ,Dive.

Walsall and Northampton -No reason apart from people i really don't like support these teams.
God this feels good

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paul beard | 7 May 2009 - 9:20pm

It was a close call..

between Liverpool , Man U

My choice [inevitably Man U ] was based purely on the 1978 paganini football sticker album .. with Man U just edging it on the number and quality of Scottish players in the squads.

As a young Aberdeen fan my choice was only validated when Fergie and Strachan moved to my English club.

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spinoza013 | 7 May 2009 - 9:22pm

Paganini sticker album?

You were fiddled.

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Lee Rimmer | 7 May 2009 - 9:27pm

did I really say Paganini ?

Ha! Ha! that's great...what a clod.

Panini !!

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spinoza013 | 7 May 2009 - 9:39pm

Football Violins?

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Lee Rimmer | 7 May 2009 - 9:47pm

Why I love Mark Hughes

even though he played for United and Chelsea (I’m a Liverpool supporter) is that he used his Panini sticker - trimmed down to size - as his passport photograph. Tremendous.

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Richard Lowe | 8 May 2009 - 7:38am

Would like to see him do that

at an airport now.

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Norwegian Blue | 8 May 2009 - 10:16am

Is that really true?!

If so I respect the man even more than I do already.

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Patrick Crowther | 8 May 2009 - 6:15pm

I don't really like football

so I always support the team on the left of the screen.

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TIAL | 7 May 2009 - 9:26pm

each half?

or do you switch allegiances at half time?

All the more ammunition for the growing argument for a game of 3 periods like in Ice Hockey to eliminate thugs like you from the game.

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spinoza013 | 7 May 2009 - 9:29pm

Haha,

I'm joking really. Although I do know someone who said that was what he was going to do.

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TIAL | 7 May 2009 - 9:48pm

Cocks of the North

Grew up going to watch the glorious Manchester United when Best, King Dennis and Bobby Charlton were playing.

Liverpool l can't stand, even though l was born there and spent my early years there (l know, a Manchester United fan coming from Liverpool, it's a long story). Had to suffer years of abuse and pisstaking when Manchester United didn't win the league for years and Liverpool swept all before them. Well worth it now though. Don't mind Everton at all.
As l didn't grow up in Manchester, l couldn't care less about Siddy, they're just a joke.
Dirty Leeds l still can't stand. My brother now lives right by the stadium and had his wedding reception in the Jacky Charlton suite (what a dump). He has no interest in football so can be forgiven.
Not bothered about England either - l'm European me.

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jamie d | 7 May 2009 - 9:34pm

Iron!

Scunthorpe United.
Newcastle United.

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Mr Drayton | 7 May 2009 - 9:35pm

Another vote

for the Iron.....here's hoping we can send Franchise FC back into the abyss.

Not forgetting the resurgent Everton (TM), as I look forward to inflicting more existential agony on everyone's least favourite Russian oligarch.

My Hornby-stylee top three most loathed sides are: Dirty Leeds - the mighty David Peace articulated this better than my overly emotive scrawlings ever can; Grimsby - sadly the Codheads clung on to their league status but at least seem doomed to trawling (ahem) the depths of Division Two in perpetuity, and finally any team managed by car-coat-clad clown 'Arry Redknapp - read Broken Dreams by Tom Bower and feel, by turns, splenetic, scandalised, shocked, saddened and plain old splenetic again.

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Paul Holmes | 11 May 2009 - 12:20pm

Broken Dreams

I always recommend Broken Dreams to anyone who ever tells ne 'Arry is the sort of character the game needs, blah blah. Same goes when Venables gets mentioned.

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Carl Parker | 11 May 2009 - 12:29pm

just spotted your grimsby comment, mr holmes

very naughty.

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Dave Holley | 11 June 2009 - 12:24pm

Another Man City fan

Irritated by: any reference to "The Big Four"

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Martin | 7 May 2009 - 9:44pm

Chelsea

*sigh*

I don't dislike any teams. Following Chelsea is torment enough.

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SirTerence | 7 May 2009 - 9:51pm

Newcastle United

God bless them and keep them.

Nowt much for the cleaners to polish in the trophy cabinet in over 50 years and currently sat in the cockpit of a plummeting spitfire with a leg trapped.

Who cares? That black and white kit has always been the best. Can we have a prize for that please?

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Andy Barrons | 7 May 2009 - 9:51pm

Newcastle

If you'd managed to keep the Haymarket and Broken Doll pubs open, l'd have sent you a prize myself

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jamie d | 7 May 2009 - 9:53pm

Come on you Shots!

Aldershot Town man & boy.

If you're an old Shots fan (pre-going out of the league), then you hate Reading, Brentford and AFC Bournemouth, particularly after they changed their name specifically to get ahead of us in the alphabetical listing of league clubs. Not that we're petty or anything.

If you're a new Shots fan (post going-out-of-the-league-then-16-years-in-the-wilderness-before-last-years-triumphant-return-and-the-slightly-disappointing-first-season-back), then you hate Woeking, Farnborough and anybody managed by Graham Westley and/or that fat bloke at Crawley. Not fond of Nigel Clough either.

We nearly beat Man Utd back in 1970 you know...

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MarkHagen | 7 May 2009 - 9:53pm

In this order

Liverpool (Irritated by you know who)

Glasgow Celtic (More Irritated by you know who from the West end of the city)

Kettering Town (The poppies)Irritated by Rushden and Diamonds formerly Rushden and Irthlingborough Diamonds

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steveo59 | 7 May 2009 - 9:55pm

Leave.......

Partick Thistle Alone!

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Stuart Graham | 8 May 2009 - 2:05am

Damn right

We were second this year, and with a couple more results would have been back in the Premiership. And ... oh, he didn't really mean the mighty Jags after all, did he?
Never mind. We're used to being ignored. sniff

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Gatz | 8 May 2009 - 7:49am

Jags

Nice to see a couple of Jags fans on here. My brother (a Swansea lad) married a girl from Dundee and now lives in Lenzie supporting the Jags. This has set up a bi-annual visit from Jacks to Glasgow and Jags to Swansea. We've even got a Jacks and Jags flag. Which was commented on by our friends from Cardiff during the last local derby. As in w.t.f. is going on.....

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Steve Hill | 8 May 2009 - 7:20pm

We're here, we're there

Well you know the rest. Another Jags fan. This time one from Maryhill - Oran Mor 10 minutes from my front door, King Tut's 17 minutes by bus and a walk. Oh yes. Music + football + a walk in the Botanics + the Doublet = heaven.

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Kenny.Boz | 8 May 2009 - 9:00pm

The Poppies

I have fond memories of covering a couple of their games for the local evening rag. They did seem to corner the market in dour managers before it was fashionable, mind

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Paul Holmes | 11 May 2009 - 12:22pm

Kettering!

Brilliant, my hometown club.

Of course, I'm not one for the "supporting the team from where you were raised" rule (I'd actually have to support Northampton Town if I did) so instead I cheer on Liverpool.

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Tom | 7 May 2009 - 10:04pm

The Poppies? *spits*

I spent my teenage years in Northampton and trained with the youth team for a while, so they're my team.

Although growing up in NZ I supported Liverpool, so I still follow them. And my grandfather played in goal for Brighton for a short while, so there's another soft spot.

And whenever I travel if I catch a game I'll pick up on a team to follow from a great distance - Deportivo Palestino in Chile (surely the only team in South America with Arabic script woven into their shirts), Incheon United in South Korea, Bodø/Glimt in Norway, New England Revolution...

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Fraser Lewry | 7 May 2009 - 10:14pm

Watched Kettering for years as boy

Although used to pitch up to the County Ground in Northampton (the one with stands on three sides as they shared the ground with the Cricket club!)with a mate from School who was a cobblers fan. Now live in Aberdeen. Only ever go to pittodrie when the hoops are in town.

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steveo59 | 7 May 2009 - 10:19pm

The last time..

I actually went to see Kettering play would've been years ago, and I never went to the County Ground (it was slightly before my time, although I imagine I was about ten when Sixfields was built? 1996)

I seem to like Ross County too for some reason, although I know next to nothing about them.

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Tom | 7 May 2009 - 10:31pm

Lost interest in football in 1970

But the Seagulls can pull my heartstrings, geographically from my youth - Brighton & Hove Albion.
I always liked the idea of Partick Thistle,for some reason too.

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Retropath2 | 7 May 2009 - 10:05pm

The Jags !!

probably the safest bet to avoid a beating on a night out in Glasgow.

I fall back on my home team Stirling Albion .. you end up with folk just feeling sorry for you unless you're in Perth or Falkirk, then a beating is on the cards.

I remember one of my posh friends being accosted in our chip shop by a casual..

"What team do you support"

"I like rugby"

"Oh aye? which team then"

was he gonna get chibbed if he said "Heriots" only to find that the radge was actually a Stewarts Melville FP fan? Oh the dilemma..

In the end he settled for "Scotland" and avoided a beating.

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spinoza013 | 7 May 2009 - 10:15pm

I Used to go and watch the Seagulls in the Seventies

I haven't been to one of their games (or anyone else's) since the early eighties but I still follow them from afar. Glad to see that they managed to stay up. Division One is the old Division Three, which has always seemed like their natural home to me.

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wayfarer | 10 May 2009 - 5:25pm

Manchester City

I'm not one of the jaded old birds who find possible success upsetting. If it happens (a Milk Cup, an Anglo-Italian Cup, I really don't care) after the 30-odd years of horror I've endured then I'll be happy. Just one trophy would do me.

And I really like East Stirling too - been up there four times. They're having a fab season too after years of misery.

Hate: MK Dons and Leicester City. And Birmingham City too. I've had death threats from their fans.

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PaoloCee | 7 May 2009 - 10:10pm

Q.P.R. - Those were the days

Been a difficult last couple of years for the hoops, with our revolving manager policy.
one of the best nights of my life was going to Loftus Road in april 1977 and watching Rangers tear Man Utd apart 4-0.
Eddie Kelly scored straight from kick off after about 30 seconds!

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plumb1909 | 7 May 2009 - 10:13pm

new

Am I the only Celtic fan here, the Barca of Glasgow, first British team to win the European Cup. You would expect me to say Rangers as my hate team but not so. My grandfather was the spitting image of John Greig so I have always had a soft soft for them bar when they play the Buoys.
Hate team Chelsea Real Madrid and any team Beckham plays for

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paintyface | 7 May 2009 - 10:18pm

The Barca of Glasgow?

More like the Rangers of London Road...

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Glenbervie | 9 May 2009 - 3:42pm

Southampton

And, as a backup, Charlton Athletic (one where I live now and the other where I used to live). You may guess correctly that this has not exactly been my favourite season.

Irritants - well, you'd expect me to say Portsmouth but since Redknapp left for Spurs I've transferred my irritation to White Hart Lane.

And nobody likes Crystal Palace and their tikka-tinged chairman, do they?

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Tim McGuire | 7 May 2009 - 10:22pm

Hail Hail paintyface

Buoys? surely Bhoys.

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steveo59 | 7 May 2009 - 10:24pm

he's all at sea..

I'm one to talk though...still chuckling about Paganini

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spinoza013 | 7 May 2009 - 10:27pm

new

Yes Stevo59 I knew that didn't look right. My spelling is shite. Since I joined this forum I haven't has to spell this much since I left school 25 years so im very rusty,and it takes me bloody ages to type all this crap out then i usually hit the wrong button and loss it and have to do it all again , like now.

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paintyface | 7 May 2009 - 11:11pm

Use Firefox as a browser

and turn the spell checker on. Has saved some (not all) of my spelling blushes.

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Lee Rimmer | 8 May 2009 - 8:51am

Everton!!!

Yes a long suffering Toffee who is living in hope of getting a FA Cup Final ticket - season ticket holder who can't afford away & cup games so little chance of a ticket!
Love my team and have followed them since Feb 75 when I was 4 and we got beat in the FA cup by Bobby Moore and Fulham.

I used to live in France in the early 90s and support Olympique Lyonnais - sad to see our 7 year hold on the league slipping but c'est la vie.

Teams that irritate me? Newcastle United - unbearable in every sense. Blackburn - 'Big Sam'. Aston Villa - sorry but O'Neill just bugs me and their ground is like a funeral parlour.

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evanslyonnais | 7 May 2009 - 11:24pm

Blimey!!!

That means there are at least 3 of us here.

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Carl Parker | 8 May 2009 - 6:12pm

Make that four

Crikey, it's just like the Magnificent Seven. Baggsy Robert Vaughan to play me

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Paul Holmes | 11 May 2009 - 12:25pm

new

Sorry Evanslyonnais have to disagree with on 2 fronts here. Im no big fan of Newcastle but any club that can attract that many fans to watch that much shit must have something good going for them. And O' Neil is a man who can turn other peoples rubbish into something useful. A bit like David Moyles!

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paintyface | 7 May 2009 - 11:42pm

The Towen

Ipswich. It's got a bit more interesting recently and I'm afraid the halcyon days of "Crisis? The only time there's a crisis etc etc" are long gone, although if truth be told they've been long gone for a...er...long while. We do seem to have produced an inordinate number of managers of national sides for our turnover though. Always keep a look out for Morecambe these days and don't really hate anyone. There's always Delia's lot of course, but 'pity' is more the word.

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skirky | 7 May 2009 - 11:48pm

Hi Skirky!

Now,where's Joe R?

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nigelthebald | 8 May 2009 - 6:54am

Here I am!

Sorry, been a busy week, haven't been on the site much.

Come on you Blues!

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Joe R | 9 May 2009 - 7:16pm

Joe,

I was beginning to worry!

S'pose a thirty-six hour delay is excusable in the light of your relocation - good luck in your new home.

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nigelthebald | 9 May 2009 - 7:46pm

Aberdeen

Been watching them disappoint me yet again at Dundee United tonight.

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lemagician | 7 May 2009 - 11:49pm

hemen

fit like?

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Glenbervie | 9 May 2009 - 3:43pm

aye aye

Fit like ye baith?

Aberdeen fans hate everybody.

Try it, it's healthy.

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57vintage | 29 May 2009 - 12:17pm

Liverpool

and I don't hate Everton. I'm rooting for them in the final.

I do hate Man U, I suppose that's to be expected but it's down to two things.

Fergusson.

Rants about players not showing referees respect whilst his own are dreadful and him even worse.

Has this illusion of playing free flowing football and digs Liverpool for being negative when he adopts the same tactics.

United at Arsenal were classic Houllier, I can't remember the last time they didn't have eleven men behind the ball at Anfield.

His assertion that they like to bring young players on, Liverpool's last wave was Gerrard - Carragher, Man U's was Neville, Giggs, Scholes.

Ronaldo

He is probably the best player in the world but his petulance is intolerable.

His diving and waving his arms in the air.

Most of all when he's brushed in the slightest, he leaps to the ground, shouting out like a big soft nana.

Great goal on Tuesday from a free kick that wasn't, that is the Ronaldo story.

How Fergusson has brought him on is admirable, he's made him the player that he is, it'll be interesting to see how he fares in a team of makeweights next year in Madrid.

It'll also be interesting to see how Man U do next year without Tevez or him.

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anythingcanhappen | 7 May 2009 - 11:54pm

The Blades

I wouldn't really say I "support" any team as I don't follow football close enough these days, but as a kid it was Sheffield Utd and I still check the scores / position each weekend. I have the shirt, but thats mainly as in this hot and humid weather in Singapore football shirts are extremely comfortable and it makes me stand out from all the Man U / Liverpool supporters here.....

There's no one I really dislike, although Man C would be the closest but thats mainly because one of my colleagues when I was in Manchester was a passionate city fan and it was always great fun winding him up. I guess I could add Leeds, but thats purely a Yorkshire rivalry thing from when I was younger - still love the sign coming up the M1....

The North
Sheffield
Leeds

(sounds correct to me.....)

I'll watch games if they are on, but don't go out of my way to watch and if there's a Rugby game on, that'll get my vote everytime.

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chrisf | 8 May 2009 - 12:10am

new

I'm just watching thr Uefa cup semi-final Hamburg- W Bremen and it is sickening to see the way footballers are acting. Its a fairly good game but the constant cheating and feigning injury is spoiling the game. Players trying get others booked or sent off is another thing. Chelsea,United and Liverpool have 3 or 4 players who are at this all the time as well.

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paintyface | 8 May 2009 - 12:09am

Hull City...

Our holiday in the Premier League may be coming to an end, although it very much depends on whether Newcastle can - as they've done all season - remain just that little bit shitter than us.

I live in an Arsenal household - we can hear the roar of the Emirates from our back garden (they weren't that loud on Tuesday, mind) and both my sons have Arsenal posters wallpapering their room. So while I'll never be a gooner, I can't dislike them that much - unlike Chelsea. Or Leeds, even though they're two divisions below us (for now).

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Kit Hogue | 8 May 2009 - 12:23am

Like the Icelandic economy,

I support West Ham.

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Nick White | 8 May 2009 - 12:32am

I thought West Ham

were supporting the Icelandic economy.

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Lee Rimmer | 8 May 2009 - 8:53am

Yeah-

We had a whip round.

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Nick White | 8 May 2009 - 11:34am

I support

Liverpool, although really I support Marine, since I grew up in the next street along and nicked many of their footballs.

Don't really hate anyone, although Man Utd annoy me because they win all the time. It's kind of why I hate bankers. AIG is a very appropriate sponsor.

I am waning on my football love, though, because of all the 4x4, way-more-money-than-they-deserve aspect. But god it keeps sucking me in.

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Klaus Joynson | 8 May 2009 - 3:14am

The Red Devils

Why - because thats where my uncle started to take me from the age of six. I landed lucky - but also had to sit through best part of 20yrs worth of failure before reaping the benefits.

Hatred - none.
Pity - The usual deluded fools from the other end of the East Lancs Road... This going to be our year..er well next year is our year.. well maybe the one after that... 'But we've won more trowfeees'..etc etc

What does amuse me is the Ronaldo references for diving and throwing his arms about. Yes - it get on my nerves sometimes, but has anyone seen Drogba play ? And our friend Stevie G should be representing GB in the fixed platform 10m freestyle.

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the mvps | 8 May 2009 - 5:40am

Gerrard

James Richardson made hilarious reference to Steven Gerrard's "ongoing battle with the forces of gravity" on the Guardian Football Weekly podcast.

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Twangothan | 8 May 2009 - 8:05am

We Cardiff City fans

dislike every other team intensely.

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eddie g | 8 May 2009 - 6:41am

That's only fair

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Tim McGuire | 8 May 2009 - 6:53am

It appears reciprocal though

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Lee Rimmer | 8 May 2009 - 8:54am

Especially.....

....us Jacks???? Or are the Worzels your biggest hates?

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Steve Hill | 8 May 2009 - 7:22pm

Needs must, eh, eddie?

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Retropath2 | 8 May 2009 - 6:51am

Manchester

United is my team, and has been since I was about six, and my mum put a white 7 on the back of a red jumper, and I ran to my dad and asked who played in red in England. For some reason he said Manchester United, not Liverpool, and this being about 1980, it was a strange choice. But there you go.

As I said somewhere up there ^ like many Norwegians, I grew up watching English football on tv every saturday.

I still prefer watching English football to most other leagues, as I know something about most teams. Dislikes are: boring Arsenal, Leeds, City and Liverpool.

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Kjell | 8 May 2009 - 7:00am

It's Complicated

As a young glory hunter in the mid-80s it was Liverpool, but I've had a long standing affection for Charlton Athletic since my teens, mainly from going with a good mate of mine. Will probably go more now they're in League 1 cos it's easier to get tickets.

Dislike - none really. It seems Man United are a popular dislike (and I quite enjoy it when they're beaten by a lesser side), but when they click into gear they're awesome to watch, and that's the point where you have to forget any prejudices you have against the team and just enjoy the football they play.

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milkybarnick | 8 May 2009 - 7:05am

Gillingham

I'm not a real fan I just follow them for the glory.

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Terry P | 8 May 2009 - 7:49am

I support Southampton

Dislike Portsmouth & Chelsea
Soft spot for Southend

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Simon Ford | 8 May 2009 - 8:10am

Not easy

Is it?

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Tim McGuire | 8 May 2009 - 8:40am

I've become numb

to it all and readily expect the worst.

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Simon Ford | 8 May 2009 - 8:47am

League 1

Is not as bad a place as I expected. And it will be tougher next season as 3 good clubs drop into it. It beats the Prem on everything other than quality of football.

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Lee Rimmer | 8 May 2009 - 8:56am

Barnsley

And mighty relieved after we survived our annual relegation battle.

Dislike Sheffield united, as is compulsory after one of their players fractured our record signing's skull with a seemingly intentional elbow.

Although really it's individuals that most irritate me. The likes of Ashley Cole and Drogba. Basically all those highly paid prima donnas who are contributing to the downfall of the game.

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Paul Wad | 8 May 2009 - 8:13am

Another Barnsley fan here...

...and another vote for the hated Sheffield United. 12 months ago I'd have said Wednesday but the attempted murder of Ian Hume and the whinging about Tevez has turned me so far against the Blunts that I really do feel physically sick when I see red and white stripes.

This coupled with Wednesdays pledge to forgo commercial shirt sponsorship in order to publicise one of my favourite charities actually eaned them some kudos and made me hate the slightly less than their neighbours.

Only just above them are Leeds, Liverpool, MK Dons and Team Bath.

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Neil Dyson | 8 May 2009 - 11:13am

"I am Gooner"

To quote our wonderful little Russian Andrey Arshavin. I have been going since i was 6yrs old in 1968 when my Dad first took me and we were rubbish then.A season ticket holder since 1969,I have had some of the most special moments of my life at Highbury and now the Emirates (less so,especially last tuesday!) with firstly my Dad and since he passed away with my son. Its the only place I have gone to regularly for most of my life...i have changed home,wife,job,doctors,dentist but going to The Arsenal is an absolute constant. I have seen the most boring football and the most sublime,seen the team winning the title with the last kick of the game at Anfield and lows of the last minute goal Naim scored from the halfway line in Paris.As Vincent Jones once said "It's been emotional".
And I will always despise Spurs even though there are not remotly rivalling us and have not for years :-)

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Jonny Evans | 8 May 2009 - 8:22am

Though Spurs

...have won more silverware than you in the last 4 years.

;)

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Ahh_Bisto | 8 May 2009 - 11:32am

West Ham

Since I was a boy. Quite enjoying things at the moment under Zola and Clarke. In terms of hate teams, Chelsea for their behaviour and attitude and because I don't like John Terry. Tottenham because I'm meant to and that's about it.

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Big Guxy | 8 May 2009 - 8:22am

Man Utd...

for me since the 1977 cup final with Satan's spawn! My brother supports them so plenty of arguments over the last 30 years! I also hate Celtic, but only because being Irish I'm supposed to like them!

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humphreym | 8 May 2009 - 8:24am

Liverpool

... is my club.

I'm okay with just about any others except:

Manchester United - Arrogant and graceless. Morally bankrupt. They sum up everything that is wrong with the modern game. Satan's team.

Chelsea - Kenyon said a few years ago that he wants them to be the Manchester United of the South. Says it all really. Drogba's behaviour was disgraceful, but rather typical of the Mourinho's legacy.

I do really like Arsenal (Wenger has done a magnificent job there since arriving and his teams usually try to play football in the right way) and generally Everton (again, great manager). Also, Martinez seems to be building a team at Swansea.

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busker_du | 8 May 2009 - 8:41am

MCFC

and Altrincham FC. No I don't have a papier maché head.

Dislikes Newton Heath FC and The M*cclesfield scum. Not much time for Spurs either.

Admiration for any other clubs who try to keep the ball on the ground and whose players don't try to roll all over it.

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Richie B | 8 May 2009 - 8:54am

Blackburn Rovers

Irritated by Burnley (of course!)

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doomah | 8 May 2009 - 9:05am

Errr...

...not much support for Big Sam around these parts is there? I think only Blackburn fans and (possibly, though very unlikely, given local rivalries) Bolton fans might give the guy the time of day. Keeping us in the Premiership, for this year at least, means he's a bit of a hero in this neighbourhood. Never mind, we can bask in our past glories, and comfort ourselves with the fact the we will probably be the last 'small' club ever to win the league (until of course, the Big Four sod off to form a European Superleague).

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doomah | 8 May 2009 - 6:55pm

"not much support for Big Sam around these parts is there?"

No, and I'm delighted as I'd assumed it was just me and a few other Gooners who felt that way!

If you look at the bottom of the Premiership you'll see several teams with Allardyce's fingerprints on them:

18th: Newcastle - managed them (sort of!)
17th: Hull - the odious Phil Brown was his assistant at Bolton
16th: Sunderland - Ricky Sbragia was also his assistant
15th: Blackburn - manages them (sort of)

Presumably if he'd become manager of England he would have gathered equally talented staff around him and spent hours training the lads how to hoof the ball up the park to John Terry, who he would have 'converted' into a make-shift centre forward.

[Shudder]

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David Ellcock | 8 May 2009 - 7:28pm

I couldn't care less about football but

I used to support Southampton.

Not much point in that now.

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Five-Centres | 8 May 2009 - 9:13am

We'll see you next season (see below)

Looking forward to the day out!

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Reno Dakota | 8 May 2009 - 9:35am

Poolie Til I Die

Hartlepool United fan & season-ticket holder (Yes, there is one...). Have to follow them as it's my home town team.

The obvious local rivalry is with Darlington, and I want that team to suffer - though having to see that club pretty much dissappearing before our eyes is a sad sight, and I have great sympathy with its supporters - though when the town of Darlington itself doesn't seem to care, financial oblivion is just round the corner.

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Reno Dakota | 8 May 2009 - 9:31am

Sunderland

and may I say how pleasant it is to see NUFC getting a fair bit of stick.
Don't care much for Chelsea at all but my all-time hate team is whichever one Fat Sam Allardyce is managing with his 'play-for-a-nil-nil-draw-lads' mentality.

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dannyboy3000 | 8 May 2009 - 10:14am

Surely some mistake

Isn't Allardyce's mentality more like 'play-for-a-nil-nil-draw-while- kicking-shit-out-of-the-skillful-players-on-the-opposition-lads'?

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David Ellcock | 8 May 2009 - 10:17am

Queens Park Rangers

The "real" hoops....dislike Brentford...

Work in the Premier League so it gets a bit tough!

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John Waite | 8 May 2009 - 10:18am

The Mariners for Me (Grimsby Town)

We sing when we're fishing....

My tele team is Liverpool (but I dont dislike the other big northern clubs including Man Utd).

As a child, I was indoctrinated into despising all the London clubs. Despite having lived in London longer than I ever lived in Gimsby I cant shake that off. I do have a slight soft spot for West Ham and Spurs which my Liverpudlian mate told me was because those two teams "are not a serious threat" unlike Chelsea and Arsenal.

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Dave Holley | 8 May 2009 - 10:49am

Very childish

But mildly amusing....


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billyous | 8 May 2009 - 11:00am

Where did the video link go?


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billyous | 8 May 2009 - 11:27am

Ipswich Town (again)!

Started following them around 1974. I just thought they played great football when I saw them on MOTD. Perfect FA Cup win in 1978 because I was the only Town supporter at my Surrey school and I was 11. I have no problem with Norwich. Is there a rule that you really have to hate the nearest club to yours?

Chelsea are the only team I seem to actively dislike. Just when the negative feelings begin to subside, something else happens to confirm my life-long gut feeling about them. Uncanny.

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Austin | 8 May 2009 - 11:01am

Hating the nearest club,

or, indeed, any other, isn't compulsory - life's too short for that kind of petty tribalism, surely. If I were thinking of being controversial, I might term it the moron's approach to football fandom.

I don't hate Leeds in spite of having been spat on by their supporters. (Though it made beating them in the third replay all the sweeter.)

I don't hate Liverpool, despite having been kicked by one of theirs. (Bad loser, clearly.)

And I don't hate Norwich City, in spite of my supporting Ipswich - indeed I feel rather sorry that they've been relegated, as it leaves the chance of our beating them next season up to a cup draw lottery.

Not hating doesn't equate to indifference :-)

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nigelthebald | 8 May 2009 - 12:22pm

Shepherd's Bush' finest

Queens Park Rangers.

Been going since 1978, and have yet to enjoy myself.

Cannot stand Chelsea in any way shape or form. Remember having to run across the pitch in 1978 (0-0) when their 'fans' kicked off in the loft. You really were taking your life in hands in those days.

Don't like Fulham out of sheer jealousy.

Don't like Brentford either, they don't like us, may as well reciprocate!!

Luton, Port Vale, Stoke, Cardiff, Colchester, West Brom all a pain in the arse too.

I am a one eyed biased, partisan QPR fan. And proud of it.

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FreakGene | 8 May 2009 - 11:43am

Another QPR fan

And as such cannot bear anything connected to Satan's representatives on earth,Chelsea.I've always believed that Fulham are just keeping our place warm. Brentford I like to treat with feigned indifference, as it seems to bother them.
And I'm not too fond of Luton either, though I'd rather have seen them relegated for football reasons than at the whim of the football league.
Always had a soft spot for Man City though.

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Andy Mackenzie | 8 May 2009 - 5:57pm

Another QPR fan

Regular since the mid-90s (yep, a Glory Hunter). Personal dislikes? Middlesborough - got good again as we went down; Chelsea - fairly obvious; Wolves - not you're not! And Cardiff - they beat us in a playoff final and even though they should have been celebrating, the coach I left on had its windows broken by 'fans'.

Proper football club, QPR. You could do worse than an afternoon in the Bush.

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Fridge | 12 May 2009 - 7:32pm

An afternoon in the Bush

The upper tier of the stand where you put the away fans is one of the worst spots in any football ground in this country. Unless you are in the first couple of rows you cannot see the goal at that end of the ground. However was responsible for the design had absolutely no thoughts about sight lines.

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Carl Parker | 13 May 2009 - 11:23am

Diabolical View

There are seats at the other end (on the sides near the Loft) which actually have 'Diabolical view' as the description on the ticket. It's still a great ground to watch football in, although you'll forgive my lack of knowledge of the away end...

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Fridge | 15 May 2009 - 8:18pm

They cheated

Luton were punished because they broke the rules. The rules are there to attempt to make sure that everyone is playing on a level field. What I think is wrong is that they had two different punishments added in one season when the two offences occurred in different seasons. Had they had the punishment spread over two seasons they may have survived - possibly not. I wonder if the same thing would have happened to Man Utd>

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JohnW | 13 May 2009 - 11:57am

Liverpool...

...even though I'm surrounded by mancs. I've nothing but disdain for Man Utd since they've spent the last 20 years singing about Hillsborough at every opportunity - I won't watch the CL final, not even to support Barca, I simply don't care about the game.

I'd like to see Citeh do well but they really need a world-renowned manager if they're going to attract world-class players.

I genuinely pity any club who suffer the misfortune of being managed by Fat Sam Allardyce.

I've always had nothing but respect for Arsenal and Wenger has been the best manager in the Premiership for years. I don't begrudge Chelsea their wealth (I wish Abramaovich had bought us) and most criticism is just plain jealously, IMO.

I've never liked Engerland, either - the European Championships were a pleaure to watch without them being involved.

Finally, I've always had a soft spot for QPR for some reason.

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Paolo Meccano | 8 May 2009 - 11:37am

Has the soft spot for QPR...

...got something to do with 1975/6 when we gave you the title?

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Fridge | 15 May 2009 - 8:25pm

That's before my time, I'm afraid.

When I first took an interest in football in the early/mid '80s, Spurs were the 'big' London club (ie they actually won stuff) and Arsenal were there seemingly to make up the numbers, while QPR were the glamour club of West London (Chelsea were 'otherwise engaged' in that period). I always found the Hoops an attractive team to watch and so I continue to wish them well.

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Paolo Meccano | 16 May 2009 - 8:34am

Lions

Millwall fc (going up hopefully)
Cray Wanderers (promoted to Rymans premier last week)
Without football there is nothing...
Oh,while I remember No one likes us etc..

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Doug B | 8 May 2009 - 11:40am

Another shout

for Birmingham City. Say, we are premier league!!

If they ceased to exist it would be Derby, Arsenal or Spurs. Anyone but Man U,Villa and Chelsea. More than any team however I dislike Frank Lampard. Despicable person IMHO.

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Steve Turner | 8 May 2009 - 11:44am

until this time next year

Well until next time this year you are, maybe.

Villa for me, with a soft spot for West Ham and Burnley. It's the colours, you see. V fetching.

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Indus | 8 May 2009 - 6:20pm

As may be evident from my handle

I am a Liverpool fan, perhaps unique amongst many London-based Liverpool fans in that I'm an actual Scouser. I remember our glory days with considerable fondness, I reflect on Heysel and Hillsborough with shame and outrage respectively, I endured the wilderness years in frustration, and I greet the somewhat faltering green shoots of recovery under the aegis of El Jefe with a cautious optimism. I am proud to say that I loathed Man United when they were crap, and when the zenith of their season was taking maximum points off us or coming fourth in two-horse races, and my continued loathing of them has nothing to do with their pre-eminence in the modern game. Unlike Chelsea, whom I loathe with almost equal depth, they have at least earned, rather than bought, the right to call themselves the best team in Europe (even if they aren't). Chelski, on the other hand, seem to have overlooked the fact that it wasn't so long ago that they were being turfed out of the UEFA Cup by St. Gallen, despite having four World Cup winners in their side, so there's a little more paying of dues (and winning of European trophies) to be done before I'm prepared to show them any graciousness. I reserve a special place in the blackest corner of my heart for Wimbledon, practitioners of what Bill Shankly (describing Southampton, IIRC) once called 'alehouse football', who prevailed by stifling superior sides with Sunday League tactics long before it became that most mortal of footballing sins. They are now exactly where they deserve to be. That said, I never felt the same about Steve McMahon after he let Vinny Jones scare him out of the 1988 FA Cup Final.

Everton are, as my late mother used to say, more to be pitied than scorned.

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Joey Jones | 8 May 2009 - 1:01pm

Stockport County

Currently in administration-the manager, Jimmy Gannon and his staff have been laid off, the club shop is shut, the ground, in a series of deceptions by businessman Brian Kennedy,is owned by some entity called Cheshire Sports leaving County without a ground. They have six thousand loyal supporters.At this moment we are more an idea of a football club than an actual one. Howewer I would rather throw my support behind a club like County than the money grubbing Manure Uniteds and Chelskis of this world, who have ruined the glorious game. Support local not global.(Trudges off into the sunset, football rattle in one hand, hot scalding Bovril in the other, quietly singing Stockport's anthem "The Scarf My Father Wore")

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Bingham | 8 May 2009 - 12:49pm

One of the strangest decisions...

... I've come across. Getting rid of one of the best lower league managers when you are trying to secure a long-term future for the club makes no sense.

Seeing cases such as Stockport & Darlington makes me feel more and more alienated from the premiership, when you consider that Drogba's annual wages would help whole league clubs exist for a few seasons.

We've been well supported by our owners for a decade now (wish we had 6,000 attendances), in which time we've been a lower Divison 4 club to a bottom/mid-table Division 3 one - and Hartlepool United supporters are very grateful.

P.S. We could do with a new manager - You haven't got Mr. Gannon's phone number, have you?

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Reno Dakota | 8 May 2009 - 3:01pm

Jimmy Gannon

baffling decision, we have also one of the best youth academys in the lower leagues, that too has been disbanded. A truly sorry state of affairs. I fear though that our club is not alone in this plight! I see a drastic shrinkage of the Football League as we know it. Last year we beat Rochdale in the League Two playoffs at Wembley. Receipts were 900,000 pounds, after the Football League took their cuts we made a profit of 20,000. End of whiny rant!

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Bingham | 8 May 2009 - 3:13pm

You have a genuine grievance...

... so you can't be accused of a whiny rant.

There are many league clubs without reserve teams (Notts County being one) and youth teams (We are fortunate to have both, and get good investment - see £100,000 investment in a new pitch for the reserves / youth-team last season).

They keep telling us that trips to Wembley are money-spinners for clubs - apparently not...

Hope you get through to next season & see you at Victoria Park.

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Reno Dakota | 8 May 2009 - 3:23pm

Mr Gannon

I loved how we refused to be interviewed by Sky, because they'd refused to fix a fault with his sky plus box.

Priceless.

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anythingcanhappen | 8 May 2009 - 10:46pm

Royals

Reading FC season ticket holder. Have seen us go from near obscurity to the once unimagined "promised land" of the Premier League.

From a 100 year old atmospheric terraced and corrugated iron death trap of a stadium to a new Ikea bolt-on antiseptic one with optional Hotel and increased corporate facilities attached that can host the Red Hot Chili Peppers and London Irish rugby club.

I've witnessed the Club's first season in the top flight since they formed in 1871 and yet I wasn't too unhappy to be relegated again. From an honest bunch of footballers playing as a team to having their virginity well and truly taken by cheating diving tossers like Drogba and whinging cry babies like Ronaldo, biased refs and moaning opposition managers. Bad foreign signings: "all my life I have dreamed of playing for a club like Reading", players get corrupted, agents stirring up moves to bigger clubs, players pleasant childhood sweethearts become WAGS and end up on reality shows, bimbos, "Fracas outside nightclub", having to watch those idiots Lineker and Lawrenson patronise your club on MOTD...

No, it might sound strange but give me mid table Championship stability any day!!

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Retro Man | 8 May 2009 - 2:45pm

United

Sorry - coming into this a bit late in the day however a couple of things...

Lard...Theatre of Debt! Brilliant! I see what you've done there. You've studiously ignored the twenty odd trophies won by the other lot since you last picked up a pot and chosen to focus on the financial model instead. You guys! Good luck in your cup final on Sunday by the way.

Meccano- yes singing about Hillsborough is abhorrent and I would never defend it (and in 20 years of going to OT have never heard it) but come on.....pot, kettle , black, Munich songs.

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omgicbi | 8 May 2009 - 5:11pm

Not mine, stolen from Bluemoon forum and edited for swearing

'What gets me is a how the self-proclaimed "biggest club in the world," the all-conquering "world champions" no matter what they do-can't get rid of "little old ciddy."

Why?

We've had too listen to 30+ years of gloating bull from lightweight,odious,bandwaggon-jumping anywhere-but-Manchester media whore,sun-reading halfwits who think that buying the latest shirt with "Ronaldo7" on the back makes them a real "fan"-despite ever making any form of emotional input,and being almost completely sheltered for 20 years from the unpredictable nature of supporting a football team.

Anyone who doubts this-check the pathetic mass exodus from the swamp fifteen minutes before the end of the game against Liverpool-with the score at 3-1.

It was a situation they just couldn't believe was happening-and due to their emotional conditioning were left totally unaware of how to deal with it.

So they just left.

These w****** treat their football team like eating at McDonalds or drinking coffee at Starbucks-its simply a lifestyle choice.
It requires no effort or thought,it's plentiful,not difficult.
You can bask in the reflective success of your team with little or no input required from yourself.You can take the piss with little or no fear of reprisal.
You just arrogantly point at the cups and tell everyone you're "the best" don't you?

In short-it's easy.
After all-if everyone else around you does it-it must be right?

What they fail to realise is that these "character traits" are exactly what makes them the most loathed "fans" on the planet to a huge majority of fans of "lesser" clubs.

They will never understand why we can still hold our heads high as a club after winning f*** all for 30+years while they have,with the aid of the constant media brainwashing and Sky's cartel money-swept all before them.

And I'm glad.

Now f*** off,you rag w*****.I don't give a f*** what you win.Ever.

You'll never get it'.

I'm City by the way.

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uproar13 | 8 May 2009 - 8:05pm

Mmmmm...

No real axe to grind here (as an Everton fan) but I always felt that the (presumably officially sanctioned?) flag in the corner of the Stretford End adding up the number of years since City won a trophy was...how can I put this?

Extremely smalltime and just a teeny bit pathetic.

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Paul Waring | 8 May 2009 - 9:25pm

Post.....

....of the day. :)

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Steve Hill | 8 May 2009 - 11:20pm

Ice...

......with your bitter lemon Sir ?

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the mvps | 9 May 2009 - 5:35pm

No offence...

but I lived in Manchester for about five years from the late 90's and found that the idea that City fans like to put about that 'no one in Manchester supports United' is hogwash, frankly. I agree with your general point about 'lifestyle' fickle fans but that can apply to most big clubs around the world.

Also, with the dramatically changed financial circumstances at Eastlands, how long will City be able to play the plucky 'real' underdog to United's supposedly 'fake' persona, with a straight face?

I support Rangers and have no particular preference for any English team, but I must admit I find the anti- ManU stance of most English fans has the opposite effect of making me more drawn towards Stretford. People talk about them as if they were a team of imported Galacticos but they have always had more of a home-grown core than any other comparable club, with both Giggs and Scholes even now playing a major role. Thoughts?

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DougieJ | 9 May 2009 - 8:55pm

Aberdeen

is my team...even though their inconsistency annoys me greatly.

Also look out for Alloa Athletic's results as I used to watch them when I was younger, in the world class stadium known as Recreation Park.

English team....Arsenal....also like Everton (mainly cos I think David Moyes is a good manager)
I live in Houston just now, so Houston Dynamo are the local team.

Dislike?
Rangers, Celtic, Chelsea

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David Sutherland | 8 May 2009 - 5:36pm

a question from a bluenose...

...doesn't it get on your wick that your team can raise their game consistently whenever they play Rangers (to a much greater extent than they do against Celtic, IMHO!) but can't seem to take the leap to genuine league challengers?

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DougieJ | 9 May 2009 - 9:04pm

There's a great line about the New York Yankees that

I think applies to Manchester United as well.

Someone said "Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for the house in blackjack"

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Cookieboy | 8 May 2009 - 6:21pm

Swansea City

Season ticket holder with the Jacks.

Biggest hated side? Not Cardiff, not even close. I admire anyone from South Wales who doesn't "armchair" and actually goes to games. I dislike the big 4. Rammed down our bleeding throats.

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Steve Hill | 8 May 2009 - 7:25pm

Charlton

Since they were in the old Division Three in the mid 70s so next season should bring back memories.

Irritated by: the whole Premier League.It was when they thought Thaksin was a fit and proper person that did it for me...

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masked tortilla | 8 May 2009 - 7:28pm

The thing about my team

is that like many of our musical heroes they had their best years in the 60s, 70s and, arguably 80s. Since then it's been the odd scintillating performance, the occasional masterpiece on otherwise indifferent albums.

They tour every year, and every year we fans have high expectations, only for problems with management, the departure of the temperamental lead singer and/or guitarist to other more successful bands, the usual string of mediocre gigs to leave us deflated.

As usual, after a dismal start to this year's tour, the arrival of a more sympathetic manager and the emergence of a more consistent rhythm section has led to promising end of tour dates - leading once again to high expectations for next year and the forlorn quest for the heights of yesteryear.

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Sheev | 8 May 2009 - 9:09pm

Everyone's favourite other team

Hartlepool United - through the medium of Stelling

This week I am both irritated and entertained by the Chelsea bad losers

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Dave P | 8 May 2009 - 8:23pm

Blimey charlie,...

... there's two of us!

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Reno Dakota | 11 May 2009 - 9:37am

By 2012

Pools will be the top club in the North East. The Smiths will reunite,The Beatles will be on iTunes and Dylan will have the Radio 1 Breakfast spot

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Dave P | 11 May 2009 - 8:58pm

The Arzzenal...

Do you remember how Cloughie always used to say it ?
Made it to the European Cup semi-final on today's football equivalent of small change - M Wenger for Manager of the Season !

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Roy Levy | 8 May 2009 - 9:33pm

Statto Writes

Based on the wealth of comment above, and taking the balance of favourable and unfavourable opinion, if the Word blog site contributors were to decide these things it looks like Man Utd & Chelsea would need to – in the old way of doing things - seek re-election (& probably be convincingly turned down), West Ham or Man City would be Premiership champions (come on you Irons) followed by Liverpool & Arsenal, Sam Allardyce would be unemployable, QPR & Ipswich promoted, Gerrard voted the least popular Player of the Year, Brighton in the play-offs instead of Leeds, Kettering Town catapulted into League 2, and Brentford have some points deducted & miss promotion (pity – they’re my local team). Seems to be a bit of a southern bias here !

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Michaelincognito | 8 May 2009 - 9:45pm

Whilst in Scotland

Partick Thistle & Aberdeen would be kings

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Michaelincognito | 8 May 2009 - 10:07pm

Allez les bleus!

My comment about Newcastle as least favourite team - yes they have great support but so do many teams. I really object to this notion that because of the support they must be a great club. WRONG! NUFC have won naff all during my lifetime and even my team, Everton, have won 3 championships (albeit one when I was in the maternity ward!!), 2 FA Cups, European Cup Winners Cup in my lifetime. Personally I look forward to the day in the next fornight when their relegation is confirmed.

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evanslyonnais | 8 May 2009 - 10:42pm

Chester City FC

were my first love, and first love never, ever dies. Only they seem to be in front of my very eyes over the last 3 years. Relegation from the Football League for a 2nd time, an owner that has driven the hardcore supporter base down to 1000 by outrageous mismanagement (minutes silence for a 'club benefactor' who turns out to be the North West's biggest drugs baron anyone?), a local council that seem to have had enough of said owner and wont sanction anything he proposes, and an estimated £1.1m owned to HMRC. Our six most senior pros had their contracts terminated this week (including 18 goal in a rubbish side hero Ryan Lowe), and due to losing our League status have lost our Centre of Excellence funding, thus snapping the neck of the goose that may lay the golden egg.

I would take liquidation now, and the chance to start again in the NW counties to allow us to get a community club, back in local hands and run correctly. Seems a million years away though...

Tickles me when I see Southampton fans moaning, they want to try what us and Darlington are going through.

Occasionally go to watch (matriarchal hometown) Bangor City in the Welsh Premier too. A suprisingly friendly, hospital and affordable League. Highly recommend to anyone.

Despise 'big club' Wrexham for a number of reasons. Mainly because as a proud Cestrian it is my birthright.

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waldorf | 9 May 2009 - 1:56pm

Tottenham

Since I was a kid in London, though my parents were both Ars*nal -work that one out. I had an uncle (actually married to my mother's cousin) who actually went to Spurs and that carried more weight.

2nd team - Coventry City I suppose, because I've lived in Cov for a large chunk of my life, though I have more than a bit of affection for Wolves, whom my son briefly supported - love the Molyneux - much better footballing side.

If we're talking (Ice) Hockey then Coventry Blaze (started following as Solihull Barons back in the mid-80s) and in North America - Vancouver Canucks - 1st live game I went to was in Vancouver.

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Badlands | 9 May 2009 - 6:26pm

United for me!!

I'm a Man Utd supporter. I used to find Arsenal the team that got my goat the most - in fact I was at Old Trafford for that game when Keown and his pals starting attacking Van Nistelrooy.

But now its Liverpool, or rather that goatee faced Spanish waiter of a manager that annoys me most.

Roll on Barcelona, cant wait!!!

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Almost Simon | 9 May 2009 - 6:54pm

I seem to be in good company

Along with nigelthebald, Austin and skirky, I'm an Ipswich Town boy and always will be. The reason? I was born in Ipswich and grew up there.

However, I moved away about... 8 hours ago and now my local league team is Aldershot, so I intend to go and see them a few times in 2009/10.

There are no teams I really despise, my main bugbear is people who don't support their hometown team or support a team they have absolutely no connection with. I feel sorry for the budgies up the road and wish they hadn't gone down to Division Three - it'd be good to play them next season.

Teams I'm slightly against: teams that seem to think they have a God-given right to be in the top tier (seemingly Leeds and Newcastle) and Sheffield United. For an unknown reason, I have a soft spot for Crewe...

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Joe R | 9 May 2009 - 7:27pm

Why should I support my local team?

Yes, I'm one of the "out of towners" who happens to support a Premiership team, but I dislike the assumption that, unless you have some kind of connection with the team/city,(e.g. you were born/raised a yard away from the ground) you have no right to support them. Not every non-local premiership football fan should be categorised as a Glory-Hunter either (I know you didn't attach the label, but that does seem to be a general opinion amongst many people over the years.) Of course, I'm sure there's been a sharp increase in Chelsea fans over the last few years, but that's to be expected. Some children support whoever is top of the league, others have that devotion to a Top-Four team drilled into them from the moment they were born.

I support Liverpool, and it's simply because my Dad supports them; and I imagine that's how a lot of people pledge their allegience, nail their colours to the mast etc. Of course, I think they're the greatest club in the world, and even if they were in the Blue Square Premier Division, I'd still think that.

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Tom | 10 May 2009 - 12:18am

I think you've misunderstood me

I think people should support their hometown team and/or one they have some sort of connection with. If you grew up in a Liverpool-supporting household then it's perfectly natural to support them. You hit the nail on the head though I think; it's the "glory hunters" I normally have a problem with.

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Joe R | 10 May 2009 - 4:27pm

A local club for local people

I grew up in the Woking area and there is no natural "local" team in the football league. Nearest we got was probably Aldershot but even they don't feel that local. Otherwise, support for the South London clubs was significant in my area (Palace, Wimbledon, Chelsea, QPR, Brentford, Fulham).

In my case, while maintaining a love for Ipswich, my practical football supporting hard yards were spent following "the" Woking during several hapless Conference campaigns (when Woking were in it) and various cup runs. Great fun.

One of the reasons I plumped for Ipswich because my brother supported Liverpool in a shameless, glory-hunting way. Ipswich's style of play stood out more and I wanted to follow a team that plays exciting football.

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Austin | 10 May 2009 - 6:49pm

Now you've put me in a quandry

I say people should support their local clubs or a club you have some connection with... but then you have the good sense to support Ipswich - what's a fella to do?

Our paths seem to be crossing. I grew up in Ipswich but have just moved to near Woking. Since they've just been relegated to the BSQ, I feel Aldershot are a better bet for a second team.

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Joe R | 10 May 2009 - 9:16pm

Fair enough Joe

Good luck with following the Shots. Local pubs in A'shot are full of squaddies though, which in my day was a good reason to give it a wide berth. I would ask that you do give Woking FC a try, though - for the comedy more than anything! There may even be a promotion campaign to get excited about.

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Austin | 11 May 2009 - 5:27am

title

its Dover$$$$$ for the taking

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gaz | 24 May 2009 - 7:35am

Fair enough

I come from Middlesbrough so obviously I endure the pain of being a Boro fan as part of my yoke of woe.

However, I've always had a soft spot for Liverpool, after one evening spent watching Sportsnight as an eight-year-old, seeing Forest get a spawny penalty two minutes from time in a Laague Cup semi-final and going down to a 1-0.

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illuminatus | 12 May 2009 - 4:17pm

The Teddy Bears

Translation - (Teddy) Bears rhymes with Gers (at least it does in a Glaswegian accent!)

Oh, and it's Rangers by the way, not Glasgow Rangers. The original and still the best, so no need for a geographical explanation!

Yes, I'm feeling smug today and yes I may have had a shandy or two to celebrate today's vital ground-out victory over our green hooped foes. Anyone else feel that sometimes those games, although not pretty, have a certain grim satisfaction and are what football is really all about? Or is that just the dour Calvinist in me?

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DougieJ | 9 May 2009 - 8:21pm

The Teddy Berrz

Is how it's spelt. And yes, I'm feeling rather smug after today's result, too. Gaun yersel, wee man!

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billyous | 9 May 2009 - 9:01pm

In the bag?

...all we need is to beat the Hibees, the Sheep Shaggers and the Arabs and the title's ours. Simple, eh?

Squeaky bum time, as Sir Awex put it!

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DougieJ | 9 May 2009 - 9:10pm

'Quins or Worcester Warriors

Can't be doing with Association Football - never understood the attraction myself :-)

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stimpy | 9 May 2009 - 9:38pm

Villa

Always

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Blandy | 10 May 2009 - 3:02am

Forest

for good or ill.

Also, after living near Lens for a bit I still support Racing Club de Lens from afar. Ought to be back in Ligue 1 next season, barring accidents...

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spt | 10 May 2009 - 1:34pm

The Mighty Irons...

Written with a hint of irony (no pun intended) after our result vs the Micky Mousers yesterday. However, we have largely always tried to play creative, attacking football, and have of course been the only club side ever to win the World Cup.
Team I don't like - not really the team, but the board of Sheff Utd, worst losers in history, money-grabbing, excuse making leeches. Couldn't even beat Wigan at home to stay up, then blame it all on 1 player. What a joke, I hope they get to the play-off finals and lose 10-0.
Don't really agree with the Man U haters, they play great attacking football, fantastic to watch, and it's not their fault where their supporters come from is it?
Hopefully things will continue to progress with Signor Zola, just wish he could find another Di Canio out there somewhere as we desperately need a creative goalscoring midfielder.
Up the 'Ammers !!!

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martin1959 | 10 May 2009 - 8:01pm

Munster Rugby

I've really lost all intetest in the overpaid whingers in the premiership. Particularly as it is being refereed into being a non-contact sport. I'm not asking for a return to Norman Hunter/Nobby Stiles style leg-breakers but I doubt many of the centre backs of even 10 years ago would survive todays refs.

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Gramsci | 10 May 2009 - 8:26pm

Eye Gougers

The Leeds Utd of European rugby

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Dave Holley | 11 May 2009 - 3:18pm

Earls, Howlett, Mafi, Murphy, Dowling

This one sums it up


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Gramsci | 21 May 2009 - 7:33pm

I loved

the response to the haka

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Dave Holley | 22 May 2009 - 10:45am

Leeds Utd of European rugby?

They that good then?

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Lee Rimmer | 20 May 2009 - 9:28pm

Norwich City...

...although formative years were spent in Ayr, so they were my own 'first' club as I followed Norwich from afar because they were my father's team long before I came to live here. Hence username too!

You would expect me to say Ipswich, and although there's a lot about their set-up that I don't like, plus the fact that eight years ago Five Live treated them as everyone's second favourite club, and there's the whole administration thing too, I know enough of their fans who are just as loyal as City's.

So let's go for...
Crystal Palace, not just for being a tin-pot, won-nothing club in a faceless part of south London, but also for having the gall to charge us £35 - more than Arsenal, Liverpool or Manchester United - to see our Premier League meeting there in 2005.

Coventry/Everton, for conspiring to send us down in 1985 after what you'd be forgiven for thinking was an Austria v West Germany 'agreement' a couple of weeks after we'd played our last game.

Wolves, for not being exactly welcoming for the 2002 First Division play-off semi-final second leg.

Stoke, for barely filling two-thirds of their ground when we played there in 2007/8 despite adults being charged just £6 to get in. But, of course, they're such great fans.

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honestman | 10 May 2009 - 8:55pm

Coventry - Everton conspiracy?

As with all conspiracy theories, the working of a deluded mind. Everton had won the league, won the European Cup Winner's Cup and lost an FA cup final. By the time the Coventry game came along it was something like our 60th match of the season. Not a lot left to play for at that point, but what benefit did we gain from Norwich going down?
I think we'd also beaten Norwich 3-0 a few weeks earlier. That might have had something to do with their relegation.

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Carl Parker | 10 May 2009 - 10:41pm

Barnstonworth

you don't need shorts

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Stephen Cadman | 11 May 2009 - 3:29am

I hear

You got beat 8-1 the other day, 8 bloody 1!

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Andy Mackenzie | 11 May 2009 - 9:17am

Up the Dale

Completely hooked on my home town team of Rochdale. Beaten by Gillinhgam in the league 2 play off semis yesterday but we'll be back.

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Andrew Moorhouse | 11 May 2009 - 12:53pm

Shame you couldn't manage it

If only for the nice chippy outside your away end (certainly not for the pitch, which was awful last time I was there). Also it would mean having another northern team in an increasingly southern biased league.

Cheers for knocking out Darlington last season, by the way...

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Reno Dakota | 13 May 2009 - 10:50am

the doe-eyed cock sucker of the Premiership

why, the mighty Tottenham Hotspur of course!

memorably described as such by one of my more literate mates after having led 2-0 at Old Trafford a couple of weeks ago, we succumbed in typical Tottenham fashion 5-2..

Teams I fervently dislike;

The Arse - it goes without saying. For the over-bearing arrogance of their myopic manager and their tourist 'supporters'.

Chelsea - the most fickle supporters in the land and a horrible bunch of players - particularly Terry, Drogba and Cole.

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thecolonel | 11 May 2009 - 4:23pm

that's a great line

and so agonisingly accurate - it's just like being hopelessly in love with a heartless harlot who looks a million dollars but puts out behind the bike shed for an Embo king size and a swig of your cider.

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Sheev | 11 May 2009 - 4:30pm

I support Chelsea....

I have supported them since 1976. I can only apologise.

I dislike all teams that play in RED.

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vgom | 11 May 2009 - 5:10pm

I quite like

Barnsley, what have they ever done to you?

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anythingcanhappen | 11 May 2009 - 10:01pm

MCFC for me

it's great to see that money hasn't changed us - still underperforming and frustratingly inconsistent.

Also keep an eye for the results of Conference North side Southport - Fourth Division (that's League 2 to you younger ones) champions when I first watched them, and who've just lost in the playoffs for the second year in succession.

Dislikes - Stretford United, obviously, and Wigan Athletic (for taking Southport's league place in 1978). And Glasgow Rangers, primarily because I once spent a 3 hour train journey in a carriage filled with men with UDA tattoos, who sang lots of lovely songs about sashes their father wore and how they wanted to have sexual intercourse with the pope. Not pleasant.

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The Amorous Hum... | 12 May 2009 - 12:18pm

Pity...

...you didn't share a carriage with some loveable, in no way sectarian but 'celebrating their cultural heritage', Celtic fans. The Greatest Fans in the World(TM) and never any bother, dontcha know.

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DougieJ | 12 May 2009 - 6:59pm

ICT For Me

Crazy name - Inverness Caledonian Thistle; crazy club - hire him; no sack him; no, hire him back again; oh just sack the f****r! Begetters of the best ever football headline following a 3-1 drubbing of the mighty Celtic - "Super Caley Go Ballistic Celtic Are Atrocious". Currently embroiled in their annual fight with relegation but it keeps me enthralled.

Dislikes are many, but Leeds, Liverpool (I once lived in a blue house in Crosby!) and Chelsea are right up there. Not really logical, more visceral, but it's football innit?

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Gavin Adam | 12 May 2009 - 4:07pm

Sheffield Eagles

...Oh, you weren't talking about Rugby League then?

Any other Rugby a Treize fans out there in Wordland?

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Counterpane | 12 May 2009 - 7:48pm

The Red Red Robins...

Sort of - I grew up in Hull where football means Rugby League, and what you play with a round ball is soccer. And of course coming from the East I supported Hull KR - which means you hate Hull FC, and have no interest in Hull City.
Sadly, I was seduced by soccer when I left, and now have a season ticket to Anfield (my best friend at school was a LFC supporter).

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paulwright | 13 May 2009 - 2:02pm

Rugby League is probably

THE greatest live sport to watch. Fast, skilful and brutal in a beautiful way. Also very evocative of the north, especially that M62 corridor.

I take my lad to see St Helens on a regular basis, and would thoroughly recommend the experience to anyone.

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waldorf | 13 May 2009 - 5:16pm

Liverpool's...

... my team in the round ball code - brought up on a diet of Lawrence, Lawler, Smith, Byrne, Yeats, St John, Callaghan, Hunt and Thompson stories from my dad and then followed Clemence, Hughes, Keegan, Toshack,Dalglish, Souness, McDermott, et al myself.

But given the choice of what to watch I'll switch to Widnes v Whitehaven rather than Chelsea v Arsenal.

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Counterpane | 15 May 2009 - 9:21am

The Sheffield Eagles?

"On t'dark desert 'ighway..."

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stimpy | 16 May 2009 - 10:21pm

Stoke City

Described by Alan Hansen on MOTD this week as "magnificent".

Who'd have thought it at the start of the season, when one bookie paid out on relegation bets on Stoke before a ball had been kicked.

As for dislikes, it has to be Chelsea and the foul attitudes and behaviour of several of their players both on and off the pitch. Disgraceful.

And I don't like the way Alex Ferguson chews gum with his mouth open.

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longtonian | 12 May 2009 - 11:46pm

Kilmarnock

Lifted over turnstile by my Dad at age of 8 but had been pestering to go from age of 6.

Hate all seater stadiums and getting hassled by stewards to sit down even though there's nobody sitting behind you
Hate 12:30 pm kick offs.
Hate lack of decent Premier League highlights package on terrestrial TV.
Hate paying 24 quid at Parkhead to squint around a pillar to get see team get thumped relentlessly.
Hate how Champions League just makes rich richer.
Actually I think I have fallen out of love with the "beautiful game".

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irvinepanda | 13 May 2009 - 10:42am

Atletico Madrid

is my club. Frustrating, under-acheiving, heart-breaking shower of c***s. But I love them cos they`re mine.
And we hate with a limitless passion our illustrious neighbours Real F****** Madrid

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On The Fence | 13 May 2009 - 12:21pm

Crewe Alexandra

Can't be arsed to look through 1001 other entries but prepared to bet that I'm the first here to mention them (probably in both the love/hate categories). We're that kind of team.

Sadly, the halcyon days of the Gradi era are now long gone, a bit like the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Back in Div 4 for the first time in 15 years, the season has unfolded like a cross between a Greek Tragedy and huge slow motion car crash, casted and driven respectively by a bunch of on-loan soldiers for fortune.

I can actually pinpoint the very day that it all went Pete Tong....the day we sold Dean Ashton in January 2005. A few days earlier we had won at Elland Road and beaten them comprehensively by 2 - 0. Deano scored both, team placed just a few points short of the Championship play-offs zone.

Deano sold, don't win again until last match of the season....just stay up. Since then its been one low after another.

Plenty of kids coming through the fabled Academy but are they good enough? Seems not, sadly. Looks like a long slog for a good while around all those places we thought we'd left behind, and a few new ones we hoped never to see.

Ramble over....

As for hate? Well, at various times have probably cheered most people on, but generally have little time for Leeds (old habits die hard) or Chelsea (as has been said before, no class and served them right last week). Unfortunately I have to admit that this season has seen grudging respect granted to Stoke. The clayheads have worked with what they've got and no-one has figured them out. I expect to see them regularly spanked next season.

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peterb | 13 May 2009 - 1:24pm

The Crewe Academy

That's something I'd completely forgotten about. I guess that's because since you sold Dean Ashton no-one else has come through. I'm old enough to remember back to the late 60's / early 70's when Burnley were also fabled for their academy.
I suppose part of the reason is the big clubs picking more and more kids at ever younger ages.

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Carl Parker | 13 May 2009 - 6:36pm

The Academy

is still going, if not strong it is, at least, still producing first team players. Never a season goes by where we don't give a debut to a couple of fresh faced 17 year olds no-one has ever heard of before and they usually do ok.

For example, there was a kid being spoken of last year as a potential £1m transfer target for LIverpool, at the age of 14. Not sure if he actually went, can't find any reference online, but his name is Max Clayton. Being talked about already as a shoe-in for the first team. Not heard to like since Ashton was a nipper, so maybe there is a future after all.

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peterb | 14 May 2009 - 8:49am

Tottenham born and bred

First started going with my Granddad when I was 5. We've been rebuilding ever since and that was 43 years ago.
Oh and that g**ner who commented earlier - the feeling's mutual, mate. You'll never win anything at the Emirates Urinal - it's cursed....

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Johnny Topaz | 13 May 2009 - 9:34pm

Mmm Hmm

Whatever.

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David Ellcock | 13 May 2009 - 10:19pm

A Liverpool fan myself,

but in my hometown of Stavanger, Norway, there's an awful lot of Spurs fans born in the 70's and 80's. The reason is that Erik Thorstvedt , keeper 89-96, is from here. Guess we'll end up with a disproportionate amount of Fulham fans in a few years also, as Brede Hangeland and Erik Nevland are local boys. Roy Hodgson clearly took notes when he coached Viking in 04-05.

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Norwegian Blue | 24 May 2009 - 2:12pm

Worcester City

is the team I support and the club I dislike the most. I know too much. It's where I was born and where I stayed. I adopted a Division 1 side for Primary School playground purposes based upon the colour of their top and the pleasing shape of their name. It was a great relief when I realised I was old enough not to have to care about them, thirty years later.

It's just pathetic hating your neighbours out here. I don't know how the local clubs manage to survive from season to season. So Hereford United finish bottom of League 1; with the size of their average gate it was pretty remarkable that they got there in the first place. Evesham United made it to the First Round of the FA Cup with the footballing equivalent of a well-drilled works side. Good for them. (City entered four different cup competitions and lost all four ties. No fixture congestion for them.)

No matter how the pyramid has been reorganised and renamed over the past quarter-century, City have always remained two promotions from the Football League. It's possible to enjoy the stillness. It's like "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay", watching other clubs going up and down.

City score an own goal in the first minute of a crunch match against Margate, a chip from the edge of the box into the top left corner. City lose 1-0 and Margate head into the Nationwide Conference. Margate have just been relegated from the Ryman League Premier, three levels below the Football League, to a division where you have to buy a specialist sports paper in order to find out the result.

You do see some strange sights in the lower leagues. Paul Gascoigne's final act in football was managing Kettering Town to defeat at Redditch United. And that took some doing. To think that was the last ground he visited in a professional capacity is genuinely sad. It's a heap.

I'm alarmed by the recent trend for certain Scottish clubs to disappear without trace. Have they started over or do these towns do without a local football club now?

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Robin Clarke | 13 May 2009 - 9:49pm

crowds in the low hundreds

if a professional club has an average home gate of 700 - how is that a business ? Clyde look like being next off the map. I have no emotional connection with them but I certainly take no joy in them disappearing

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elhombremalo | 13 May 2009 - 10:24pm

I don't hear much about the Scottish lower leagues

after Final Score. I have noticed a few names missing. I took an interest in Gretna's progress because they moved out of the English non-league division Worcester City moved into, sort of. I had to attend a wedding in Gretna once and got to see them play the day before. What do their fans do now on a Saturday afternoon?

Leigh RMI used to play in the Conference in front of 150 fans. I have no idea how they covered costs. A semi-professional footballer still gets paid £400-a-week. I mean, £20.8k p.a. If football clubs behaved like normal businesses... I don't know.

I read a lot of football annuals when I was younger. I learnt a story to every club. I heard what happened at Accrington Stanley just like I heard what happened to Simon Dee. A town doesn't feel complete to me without its football club.

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Robin Clarke | 15 May 2009 - 1:51am

I lived near Worcester for a few years in the 1970s

I'm sure I remember City being up for promotion to Division 4 one year, but they were blocked because St Georges Lane couldn't be brought up to standard?

I occasionally go to see the Warriors at Sixways - it's incredible what Cec Duckworth has built out there; and it's always pretty full.

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stimpy | 14 May 2009 - 11:39am

City won the Alliance Premier League in 1979

just before it became the Conference. In those days, one of Division 4's bottom four would have had to have been voted out to make way for them. I'm sure the ground was the official reason but it was quite rare to relegate old names back then.

City have been in the sixth tier since 1985 and have never really looked like leaving it, in either direction. Though they have moved between Conference North and Conference South a few times. They ended this season with twelve games without a win. I'm just grateful that they made it to the end of the season.

It is incredible what Cecil Duckworth has done at Sixways. It's also surprising that the fans don't complain too much about finishing second-bottom most seasons. We're a very stoical lot round here. Duckworth demonstrated that there are plenty of people in Worcestershire who are willing to support a good, local side. City used to be well-supported too.

Of course, Duckworth approached the football club first. The board also turned away the people who took Cheltenham Town into the League. Hence my distinction between the team and the club. They've had the one plan for decades: sell the ground, clear the debts, start again on a new site. The ground looks worse every season, the debts grow every day and no-one wants a new football ground anywhere near them. I could go on all night.

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Robin Clarke | 15 May 2009 - 1:13am

Cooo...

I didn't know he'd approached the round-ball club before hosing his money out to Sixways.

I get to see the Warriors maybe once a season; the last couple of times there's been a cracking covers band on in the bar after the game - the Hoggs - they're everything that The Word isn't about; just good covers of mainstream rock - Zeppelin, Who, Purple, etc etc - but after a win over Gloucester and a few pints during the game they create just the right atmosphere to continue drinking :-)

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stimpy | 16 May 2009 - 10:28pm

con.south

isn't this is their first season in the connie south?
certainly the first time we have played you and we were founding members

Had the pleasure of monday night at yours earlier this season. FWIW a Propa non-league ground.

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gaz | 24 May 2009 - 7:31am

Bolton Wanderers

Yes, I recall losing 4-0 at Scarborough, when they were in the league. (Consult your reference books.)

No, I don't think we've always played the nicest football. But I don't understand or admire the plate of chips on Arsenal fans' shoulders. Look, we didn't LIKE stopping you winning the league that year, which meant that our least favourite team (the one with the biggest debt) did instead. It's just that we accidentally discovered it was so easy to scare you, like going up behind a child and shouting "boo". Then you hired Abou Diaby to all but end Ivan Campo's career by lunging studs-up at his ankle. Apparently, they call it Wengerball.

Mealy-mouthed mitherers apart, who do I dislike? As Badly Drawn Boy once said (see quote at http://fourfourtwo.com/interviews/celebrityfans/186/article.aspx - there's other musical types there too), "growing up in Bolton, it’s inherent that you hate Man United". As it happens I think they can play rather nice football, although Arsenal's is better, at its best.

Like others, what I hate most is the funneling of money into the teams nearest the top - and, yes, in the 92+ scheme of things, I'm perfectly aware that that includes my own football club. Cartels like the Premier League and "Champions" League are designed to squeeze the life out of those outside the circle-jerk. I'd have loved Villa to break into the top four to ease the monotony, even if Arsenal would be the last of the top four I'd evict.

But sadly they didn't, and they didn't even bother with the UEFA Cup because it's not financially worth it. So the money stays at the top, and the rich get richer, and the poor can go bust - as I'm sure some will. Season ticket sales will be markedly down over summer, almost across the board. English football has started to fancy itself as premium entertainment, with ticket costs to boot, while still hoping to trade on the traditional undiscerning blind loyalty - we're "consumers" when they're fleecing us but "fans" when they want us to buy the new shirt every year, or pay £30 to watch two teams of automatons battle it out in a ten-man midfield malaise. Would you? I no longer do, very often. I preferred it at Scarborough. At least it didn't cost me the equivalent of four or five albums shrewdly bought.

I still love the game, though, for its perfect combination of intelligence and physicality. There's nothing better than watching Barcelona pass with purpose and intent, slicing opponents apart with quick feet and quicker brains. Or Bournemouth battling back from their points penalty to avoid relegation. There's a thousand stories and you never quite know how any of them will end... even if you've a very good idea who the top four will be.

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Gary Parkinson | 14 May 2009 - 7:29pm

Born an Blue

In a family of Blues going back to the start of the Club. My great-grand parents (on my mother's side) upto WW1 had season tickets to Goodison. My Dad was a "renegade" - he saw the light as a lad after seeing the great WR Dean score 5 goals in one match in the early '30s.

Glad to say my son - though born in London where I have lived for over 25 years - is carrying on the tradition of not being a manufactured fan and is not a brand follower like many from the region.

Apart from the inevitable antipathy to all things Red - tho' I have a soft spot for the Arse - I particularly dislike:

1 Spurs for their fans persistent arrogant but unjustified posturing and their current manager HR

2. Chelski (a) where were all their curent supporters in the 1980s/ early 90s (b) Will they still be there when Putin's place mate departs?

3. West Ham - multifarious reasons, including their denial / support of Di Canio's fascist leanings - tho' I admire Zola as a player and manager.

4. Leeds, Millwall and Cardiff for their wonderful fans and having to endure unfortunate happenings when visiting their respective grounds.

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Forzaazurrisempre | 15 May 2009 - 3:14pm

Excellent! The 5th Bluenose

As Paul Holmes says above it's getting like the Magnificent Seven.
Where are the final 2?

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Carl Parker | 15 May 2009 - 6:08pm

Isn't Hepworth

a Spuds (Spurs) fan?

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FreakGene | 15 May 2009 - 3:24pm

Airdrie

The coolest strip in the world. Hughie Gallagher. 1924. Derek Whiteford (my old PE teacher and shit footballer). The roll-call of glory could go on but my chip pan is smoking - must dash.

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LuxExterior | 15 May 2009 - 6:50pm

Technically

they ceased to exist in 2002?

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Glenbervie | 19 May 2009 - 6:45pm

Irons

Been a fan pretty much ever since we won the World Cup, and that's despite (or perhaps because of) my dad taking me to Millwall as a kid.

Not sure how well they are playing these days - I always asleep before MOTD gives them their 2 minutes

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fortuneight | 16 May 2009 - 8:50am

World Cup?

when was this, bit sad no?

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gaz | 24 May 2009 - 7:28am

Oxford United

I've given up hating Swindon, it's just not worth the energy anymore.

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Jim M | 21 May 2009 - 5:59pm

Brentford - season ticket holder I am

and for for some reason we are meant to hate Fulham, but as we haven't played them for a number of years I am at a loss as to why!

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nc4586 | 22 May 2009 - 11:17am
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