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Where Is The Punk?
Posted by Mr Drayton on 3 July 2009 - 8:56pm.
I saw this and saw the echo of 1970's Pink Floyd, ELP, Led Zep etc, etc.
Bloated rock excess.
Who wil wield a punk rock style broom* to herald in the new?
Music is more of a commodity now.
It's revolution televised, it's teeth taken out.
From where will the next wave come, the one that will puncture the U2 blimp?
*yes, punk changed nothing, it was a racket, who plays punk any more? blah blah blah...
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I saw this and thought
Fuck me that's amazing.
They are the only band I'd go and see in an arena venue and I'm not even that much of a fan anymore.
Credit where it's due.
BTW, as for Punk and the 'new punk' wave, the one thing most people now agree on is that rather than the old view that punk came along and changed everything, it actually just obscured the wonderful music which was also being made at that time. I strongly believe that there is room for it all. If you don't like it listen to what you do like. There is plenty of it. Why does U2 or anything else have to be removed? Slag it off, it's fun, but wishing it was gone just seems such a waste of energy.
All that stuff
lit up and in the way of the band was a waste of energy.
The Hope and Anchor...
it is not. Am I the only one completely confused by this? Where's the bloody stage? Where's the backdrop with the band's logo on it?
Croke Park
I am very much looking forward to a bit of that, and in defence of the '2, their tickets were about 40 euro cheaper than other Dublin headliners this summer. I'm looking at you Springsteen and AC\DC.
Punk..
..did not sweep away one major level band (*i.e. Floyd, Yes etc), just stopped certain inkies writing about them.
All it did was ruin the careers of loads of excellent middle-level bands who depended on the pub and college circuit to survive.
There were tons of bands filled with great musicians and singers with great songs, not far behind the major acts as regards to quality, who one could see anywhere for a couple of quid.
These were replaced by hopeless punk-rock chancers who disappeared after the first wave but left nothing substantial to replace them.
Contrary to popular opinion, I believe that punk sickened a healthy music scene, and it never really recovered.
Like
Horselips, Steve Gibbons Band and The O Band? 2nd Division.
What about the golden age of british pop that came in it's wake? 79-82, the UK musc scene was alive with great new bands, not to mention underground acts like the Pop Group, The Cabs and The Normal, all spurred into action by the DIY ethos - in fact U2 came from that initial explosion of energy.
Never really recovered? well gigs didn't stink of patchouli oil for a start!
Well, it's horselips for courselips isn't it?
The first bands you mentioned were all good bands, the second, all post-punk losers that only a person drawing a very long bow could describe as a golden age of anything.
..and no the gigs probably didn't reek reek of patchouli oil, they reeked of amphetamine induced sweat and vague Stalinist self-importance.
..and using U2 as a shining example of what punk achieved?..ooh er.
You must be a music journalist. Do all you guys sign a charter when you join up? Progressive rock was crap, hippies are shite, punk changed everything..blah blah..
Bloated rock excess? (Copyright NME 1977) it's just a band putting on a show for christ sake.
John Lydon
may now be a cuddly, butter-wouldn't-melt (ha!) parody of his former self, but back in the day he did get one thing right.
Never trust a hippie.
Yeah..
..go with the flow..trust a banker instead.
I wouldn't trust them neither
Many of them are 'reformed' hippies.
Your turn.
Entranched positions
There was good and bad to both types of music.yes there were lousy punk bands but to act like their was no "bloated excess" when we all know how up their own bottoms the likes of ELP had become is to be looking through rather rose tinted specs.Music needs shaking up from time to time,Whether through the internet or the DIY ethos of punk. If nothing else it tends to invigorate a lot of previously stale bands.Just because you don't like what followed your own era and blew it out the water it is very churlish to be so dismissive just because you didn't "get it".
I remember when rap came along I never really got it,but at the same time I certainly recognised it's vitality on the music scene at the time.
hear hear
what he said
..but people act..
..as if punk was the first music to "shake things up," but of course it happens all the time.
I have no strong feelings either way about punk, it ended up providing some worthy artists (when they learned how to play, write and sing, that is).
..as for "hippie music," isn't today's scene the absolute height of fey, whispering sensitive types (like..ahem Bon Iver) that make Roy Harper sound like The Clash? The free CD I got for subscribing (The Decemberists) is the hippiest, complex, concept album up the ying-yang album I've heard in years. It's great!
Is that a
Glass Spider? Oh no!
Been a big thing
Here in Barcelona. Most people i know who went said it was a fantastic show. However,these are the sort of people who've never been to a gig with less than 10,000 people attending.
Bringing light upon magic
U2 ticket prices
Very expensive for Wembley. For decent tickets, with booking fee, you're looking at a ton each. AC/DC, etc much cheaper.
Wonder if Bono is giving all the profits to charity and to replant trees in the rainforests?
Superbowl
I love me some punk and some pubs but sometimes you need something,like, awesome dude
You gotta say those Americans do Big well.
This was great. Tom was better than Bruce the next year. My team the Giants won. And I, as they say, was there - lapping up every overblown, cornpone, corporate minute of it